Over the past few weeks, we here at Kotaku East have been taking a look at the previous Rebuild of Evangelion films as we eagerly awaited the release of the third in the series: Evangelion 3.0: You Can (Not) Redo
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Richard: So Toshi, before we really dive into this thing, what exactly is your history with Evangelion?
Toshi: Well, itâs a bit of a long story. Basically, I was not in Japan when the TV series first aired. I only found out about Eva during one of my visits to Japan (I think it was a winter vacation in college) because I had gotten a Sega Saturn and a magazine I had bought had an article for a new Eva game for the Saturn called Shinseiki Evangelion 2nd Impression. What immediately caught my eye was the character design by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto. I read the article over and over and during my next visit to Japan, I got the game and its predecessor. So, my introduction to the series was actually through an unofficial side story. Afterwards, I bought the first three videos that were out at the time (episodes 1 to 6) and the first three manga. After that, I watched the End of Evangelion movie before watching the entirety of the TV series. What it comes down to is that my introduction to the series was completely out of order and a little messed up.
Richard: Readers who have been following our Evangelion coverage probably already know about my history with the series, but for those donât, let me just say Iâm a big fan of the series and I credit the End of Evangelion as the first movie I ever watched that made me work for understanding.
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Richard: One more thing before we get started. I saw it first day, first showing at the biggest theater in my area. The theaters were crammed full of otaku, mostly men in their late twentiesâthough there were maybe 20% women. How did the audience look at your showing?
Toshi: I actually had to work during the day (#$&%*!?!!), so I caught a late showing at 8:30pm; but I went with a girl so that makes me cooler.
Richard: Careful Toshi, mixing love with Eva never turns out well. Someone always seems to end up on a beach strangling his significant other.
Toshi: I disagree. Sometimes one of them gets shot and the fan base spends years debating who killed th-Wait a minuteâŠ
Richard: Getting back to the audience composition thoughâŠ
Toshi: Yes. Well, interestingly enough, the group I was with had a modest number of female viewers. Ratio-wise Iâd say it was about 75% male, 25% female.
Richard: So, in one word, how would you describe Evangelion 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo?
Toshi: In a word⊠âConfusing?â I guess? How about you?
Richard: Is there a word that means âunbelievably contrivedââonly more so?
Toshi: Yeah, that gets bundled into âpretentiousâ in the dictionary.
[*From this point on, the review becomes very spoiler heavy]
Richard: For our readers who have not seen the film yet, letâs give a quick, incredibly spoiler-filled summery of the plot in the film. 14 years after Evangelion 2.22, Asuka and Mari go to space to pick up Shinji where he and Eva 01 have been interned. Misatoâs anti-Nerv army revives him but there is no sign of Rei II. Rei III then shows up, ârescuesâ Shinji, and takes him to the ruins of Nerv. Over time, Shinji makes friends with Kaworu and after learning all the secrets of Evangelionâi.e. what happened to his mother, that Rei is a clone, etc.âShinji agrees to help Kaworu remake the world into a better place by starting the Third Impact. âŠIt doesnât exactly work out.
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Toshi: Didnât it? I mean, the minute the neck bomb from Rutger Hauerâs movie, Wedlock showed up, everything pretty much worked out exactly as youâd expect.
Richard: Anyway, my main problem with the film is this: The entire plot only works if everyone in the supporting cast is pants-on-head retarded.
Toshi: I wouldnât go that far. I just think most of the secondary characters needed some lessons in basic communication skills.
Richard: I mean seriously, Toshi, the entire plot could be avoided with a 30-second conversation in which they convey to Shinji only the most basic and important information about his circumstancesâand they had both the time and opportunity to do so.
Toshi: Yeah, thatâs one of my pet peeves with rom-coms, and I never thought Iâd see it here.
Richard: Youâre totally right. Just like a rom-com. Characters lose all common sense so the plot/drama can be railroaded in. If the logical conversation had happened in this film, the movie would be 15 minutes long:
Misato: Shinji, youâve been trapped in the Eva for 14 years. Your dad is insane and trying to end the world. Weâre trying to stop him.
Shinji: What about Rei? Where is she?
Misato: Sheâs dead, Shinji. You were there.
Shinji: No, I saved her. She was in the plug with me!
Misato: You were the only one in there when we got you out. But if sheâs in there, Shinji, weâll do everything we can to get her out, too. âŠBut thereâs one thing you should know. Your father cloned Rei and is using her against us.
Shinji: That bastard! What can I do to help?
Misato: The problem is, Shinji, that the last time you were in the Eva, you started the Third Impact. We donât know what will happen if you get in it again. So we need you to sit this one out for a while until we know more.
Richard: BAM! MOVIE AVOIDED
Toshi: I know. However, playing the devilâs advocate, I could kind of understand why Anno, the writer/director, made that choice in the script. I was totally frustrated with the fact that no one would take the time to explain anything to Shinji; but when Kaworu showed up, it finally made some sort of sense. His line that Shinji was struggling and unable to keep up with the change that had happened made me realize that by explaining nothing and tossing Shinji around like a rag doll, Anno was trying to place us, the viewer, in Shinjiâs shoes. A little forcefully, but I think thatâs what he was going for.
Richard: Yeah, Anno clearly had an archetypal story in mind: the hero, lacking all the facts, joins the bad guys not knowing they are evil. This isnât a problem in and of itself. I love this story. It serves to show the villainsâ motivations, blurs the line between good and evil and gives the hero a new perspective on the overall conflict. No, my problem is not with the archetype they chose but rather that instead of developing the characters and giving them a legitimate backstory to withhold this crucial information, they settled for making the entire supporting cast abusive and passive aggressive.
Toshi: Agreed. Definitely more plot driven than character driven, which is a shame considering how well done the character-driven narrative of the previous movie was.
Richard: The cast is also dumber than a box of rocks.
Toshi: Now now, the cast isnât dumb, just the characters they portray.
Richard: Their goalsâwhich are never explained, by the wayâare dependent on getting Shinji out of his 14-year stasis. In the short term, they want to use Eva 01 as the power source for their flying Eva battle ship. As for why they need a flying battleship? Who knows?
Toshi: And where the hell did the flying battleship even come from? Considering how few other people show up, I was constantly wondering how many people were even alive. I swear NERV must be completely automated, or Gendo and Fuyutsuki must not have a problem with doing manual labor on their ownâŠ
Richard: No kidding, the population of the world seems to be Misatoâs ship and the four people at Nerv.
Toshi: I wonder who cleans the bathroomsâŠ
Richard: Anyway, back to the characterization problems. While youâd think at least someone would be happy to see Shinji after they get him out, everyone instead turns up the passive aggressiveness to 11. Why they act this way is never explained. Do they blame him for the last 14 years? Asuka, Ritsuko, and Misato all three do a great job at yelling at him and blaming him, all the while telling him nothing about why or what heâs done.
Toshi: Which was quite contradictory to how Misato was cheering him on at the end of the previous movie.
Richard: Exactly! The worst of the lot is Misato. She was egging him on in Evangelion 2.22. She knew what he was doing (saving Rei) and wanted him to go for it. Neither he nor she had any idea what he was trying to do could cause the Third Impact. And christ, itâs like sheâs reading from a manual called âHow Not to Deal With Shinji Ikari.â He is awakened and taken in chains up to the bridge, where she then refuses to talk to him while Ritsuko explains theyâve attached a bomb to his neck (of course no one bothers to tell him why). Then, when he offers to help Asuka fight an angel, Misato just coldly tells him heâs not needed. You know, after specifically calling him to the bridge. Seriously Misato, have you MET Shinji? A few kind words and heâll be eating out of your hand! What, were they just trying to break him psychologically? If so, why?
Toshi: Again, playing devilâs advocate, we donât know WHAT happened in that blank of 14 years. So something must have happened to make them turn on him like that. I am kind of alright with the explanation that âthings are different now,â which sort of works with the title of You Can (Not) Redo. But, yes, very plot driven and not character driven enough.
Richard: But sadly, we find out nothing of the rationale that turns the cast from âcharactersâ into âone-dimensional assholes.â When it comes to all the characters on Misatoâs side (including Asuka and Mari), their only point in this movie was to make it so when Shinji has the chance to ditch them, he does.
Toshi: I wouldnât say âone-dimensional assholesâ as much as âtoo one-dimensional to be convincing.â Weâre kind of shown that SOMETHING has happened to turn everyone against Shinji, but weâre never really given a picture of how horrible it was (just hints of it) and the characters arenât written in a way to convincingly make it seem whatever happened was bad enough to make them turn against Shinji. Only that they either blame him or just donât like him anymore.
Richard: Are we supposed to think it was the end of Evangelion 2.22 that did it? Because that doesnât make a lick of sense.
Toshi: I can only guess whatever it was must have happened between the two movies. Pretty convenient that thereâs no footage of that, because it would have made going into Eva 3.0 a lot easier.
Richard: Frankly, this utter lack of character development made me hate everyone except Shinji, Kaworu, and Rei (who I am now ambivalent to). These three are, as you may have guessed, the only characters to receive any kind of character development whatsoever.
Toshi: Which is understandable, because this is clearly Shinjiâs story. Heâs the center of the whole thing and the one the audience is supposed to relate to⊠Which falls apart later, but weâll get to that.
Richard: Well, his and Kaworuâs story anywayâwhich leads into what I feel is the best part of the filmânamely, every part with Kaworu and Shinji.
Toshi: You mean the sexual subtext between them?
Richard: Well, there is definitely subtextâthough nothing more overt than close proximity.
Toshi: Well, no. But it was heavily implied enough to make the girls in the audience I was with giggle and swoon a lot.
Richard: Homosexual relationship or no, it really was excellent. Their friendship was gradual and far better done than in any other incarnationâanime, game or manga.
Toshi: I definitely agree there. I think the movie really found its footing once Kaworu showed up. Things made more sense and it was a lot easier to get into the movie.
Richard: But all good things must come to an end as we move on toward the climax. So when the grand âevilâ plan was revealedâto start the Third Impact and remake the world into a better placeâI was ecstatic. It sounded like a great way to get rid of all those one-dimensional windbags and get back to the characters I had enjoyed watching. Honestly, something is very wrong with your movie when the viewer is rooting for the bad guys because they are more likableâeven if they are, stunningly, even less competent.
Toshi: Fourth Impact. (Do I sound like a snob? I sound like a snob.)
Richard: It was really unclear. Like some people called it the âcontinuationâ of the Third Impact, or called what Shinji did the ânear Third Impact.â I donât think they even know the correct terminology themselves.
Toshi: Whatever. Big holes in the sky⊠Blood and stuff⊠IMPACT! Which brings me to a problem I had with many of the âspectacleâ scenes in the movie.
Richard: So, what? The entire first and last thirds of the movie?
Toshi: Pretty much. The problem I had personally with those scenes is that there was a lot of âstuffâ just for the sake of there being âstuffâ and more importantly, they never showed the reactions of the characters we wanted to see reacting to this stuff. I wanted to see Shinjiâs reaction to the newfangled space Yamato-wanna-be, or Gendoâs reaction to the Fourth Impact as itâs happening. I mean, this stuff is important to them, and we donât see what they think about it at all.
Richard: Yeah, for it all being Gendoâs plan, he really didnât seem to give a shit, did he?
Toshi: I guess he was too busy talking to unresponsive black monoliths.
Richard: Of course, the downside of Gendoâs âevilâ plan is that it means that, just like in Evangelion 2.22, the climax is again centered around starting the Third Impact. You canât tease the End of Eva in every movie. Itâs the boy who cried wolf! And I have a feeling this isnât the last time weâll be dealing with âimpactsâ in these films.
Toshi: The deus you say!
Richard: It is indeed quite mechanical.
Toshi: Itâs Dragon Ball syndrome. Once you blow up a planet as the crux of your story arc, you have to do it again in every subsequent story.
Richard: Only if youâre a hack writer.
Toshi: Well, writing isnât the only flaw that this movie has. Iâm sure you managed to find some other points you werenât quite pleased with, right?
Richard: Well, aside from the aforementioned characterization (or lack thereof), pretty much everything from the closing moments of Evangelion 2.22 is left totally unexplainedâi.e. where is Rei II? And Mari still has no reason to exist (other than to sell figures). But the big one is the character designs for all the âfutureâ characters.
Toshi: Well, Mari also sells doujinshi, but that money doesnât really go directly back to Gainax. Speaking of character designs and âfutureâ changes to the characters, Gendo seems to be going the Keel Lorenz (Selee 01) route in his eyewear, did you notice?
Richard: The shades, Toshi, the shades. Itâs like Gendo and Misato dropped by Hill Valley circa 2015 to pick up the latest in eyewear.
Toshi: Well, selling real character paraphernalia is another way anime companies make money.
Richard: Then thereâs the other problem with the designs. The fact that even though 14 years have passed, Asuka and Mari still look 14 years-old. Oh there is a contrived explanationâbeing a pilot prevents agingâbut this causes more problems than it solves. If they have discovered the fountain of youth, why isnât everyone under the age of 14 spending time in an Eva and enjoying the immortality?
Toshi: Going into nerd territory here, but, by being a pilot, you run the risk of mental contamination, youâre risking your life fighting angels, and (please stop me) in order toâ
Richard: Well now at least fans wonât feel bad about lusting after 14-year-old girls, I guess.
Toshi: I can confirm or deny nothing. Moving on. Please.
Richard: Well, while I have been pretty down on the film, it wasnât all utter crap. Like I said above, I loved pretty much every scene with Kaworu and Shinji. They also took the time to lay out many of the seriesâ mysteries in plain Japanese which I can imagine was nice for those not familiar with the series.
Toshi: Indeed. Fan girls will love those Kaworu/Shinji scenes. They also did the familiar thing of using a bunch of religiously significant terminology that fans are probably going to be spending their time looking up and speculating over.
Richard: Really, I guess the best thing about the movie is that they tried something new. Instead of copying the series like with Evangelion 1.11, they blazed their own path and ended up somewhere far different from what anyone was expecting. I mean, I think they fell flat on their faces, but Iâd rather have a failure like this than an uninspired rehash. Still, it did pretty much flat out make everything that happened in the first two films completely irrelevant.
Toshi: And hereâs where we differ in our conclusions. I, too, enjoyed the fact that they went somewhere new and unexplored, but I wouldnât say it fell flat on its face. I could see what they were trying to do and the reasons behind some of the choices they made. Some of the execution needed refinement, yes, and for people who trudge the depth of movies investigating their structure, symbolism, and story structure, the flaws will stand out. But knowing those flaws and seeing what was being done, I enjoyed the movie quite a lot. Was it a perfect film? Not by a long shot. But as a fan of the series, I had fun despite all its flaws, and I managed to feel a lot of the old excitement I used to get back when I was first introduced to the series. I do expect that my opinion will be in the minority though.
Richard: Well the next film is called âEvangelion:||â. Donât know what that is at the end⊠an âIâ and an iota, maybe? I think Iâll pronounce it âillâ because thatâs about how I feel after seeing You Can (Not) Redo. And frankly, if any movie needs to take a do-over, itâs this one.
Toshi: It probably should have been titled, âYou Can (Not) Refineâ⊠As for title of the next film, it requires some knowledge in music to understand, but that symbol is used to signify the end of a piece of music. Paired with a colon, it means ârepeat.â So either the next movie will truly be the end of the series, or it may lead back to the start or another round of movies.
Richard: Toshi? One more random question. If Misato can afford a flying Eva ship and several spaceships, why do they have to literally patch Asukaâs plug suit together with duct tape?
Toshi: Better that than grafting two Evas together straight up the middle and having themâ Oh, wait, that was in the preview for the next movieâŠ
Evangelion 3.0: You Can (Not) Redo was released in Japanese theaters on November 17, 2012. No international release dates have currently been announced.
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